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Victoria Boutenko on Vitamin B12

11 Comments 18 March 2010

If you have heard Victoria talk recently she would have shared her theories on Vitamin B12 in much more detail. I wanted to post this response from Victoria because I think it’s interesting and we get asked about B12 regularly. Some people may find Victoria’s answer controversial, however please keep in mind that this is very brief, she has not drawn any official scientific conclusions and this response is an observation from her own experience.
(Photo taken at a recent ‘Conscious Events’ talk in the UK)

QUESTION: Where do vegans get their Vitamin B12?

VICTORIA: Vitamin B12 is the only nutrient that we cannot get from plants. There is a lot of research currently going on regarding B12. The USDA recommends getting this vitamin from animal products. Many vegans
and raw fooder’s take vitamin B12 supplements. Dr Vivian V. Vetrano and other doctors of Natural Hygiene state that vitamin B12 is made by bacteria in the intestinal tract. As you can see, there is a lot of confusion and conflicting information about this rather important issue. At the same time, vitamin B12 deficiency may be dangerous for human health. I have my own theory about vitamin B12, based on my experience
of eating raw food for over 15 years, and observing other people on vegan and vegetarian diets.

I believe that nature provided two main sources of vitamin B12. One source is a healthy digestive tract with normal flora. The second is from animal food, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that we have to eat
meat, fish, or dairy. I am planning to conduct more research and possibly publish a book about this subject. I believe that the organic fruit when ripened on the vine or tree provides vitamin B12. I have no doubts that such fruit contains a significant amount of insect eggs which are known to be a rich source of B12. When you bring fruit from the farmer’s market home in the summer, maybe you have noticed fruit flies that quickly hatch and multiply, becoming a nuisance in your kitchen. Where do they come from? Not from your furniture! They come from the tree ripened fruit.

Unfortunately, most farmers pick their fruit several months before ripening. Other farmers apply huge quantities of pesticides which greatly reduces the chances of the insects laying eggs on the fruit. The insect eggs are so tiny that you need to have a very strong microscope to see them. So, I think you can still consider yourself vegan, or better use the term “conscious vegan” if you eat the fruit flies in organic fruit. Together with Dr. Miven Donato, we are planning to conduct a pilot study with a group of volunteers who have B12 deficiencies. By performing a MMA (Methylmalonic acid) test, which is considered to be the most accurate test for B12, we will determine if people could get B12 from tree ripened organic fruit. For now, you may take supplements if you need to, and I hope that you will especially enjoy the tree ripened fruit.

Victoria explains other sources of B12 in this article ‘Washing Fruits, Vegetables & Greens’.

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  1. latinveggie says:

    I have also heard you can get B12 from soil and you shouldn’t wash all the soil off your veggies. Is this true?

  2. emilyb says:

    Please read a post on this blog called ‘Washing fruits, vegetables and greens’ in the ‘Greens’ category.

    Victoria says “I believe that little bits of soil contain microorganisms and that these contribute to our B12 levels….. My answer is that I’m not afraid of parasites as much as I am afraid of chemicals”.

  3. Wimsel says:

    How make animals B12? When they are capable to do so, Human beings should have the same tools. Also the micro oranisme have to transfer something to B12. Maby we should add more grass anf wild plants to our food. You can make juices of them.

  4. ElishaShemuel says:

    The author does not believe that a vitamin B12 deficiency is more widespread in vegans or vegetarians – this is probably just another marketing lie! In fact, many so-called studies ‘showing vegans deficient’ have to be carefully studied themselves – many of them do not prove vegans to be deficient at all! In fact, contrary to meat and dairy industry propaganda, meat-eaters are known to be more likely to have a vitamin B12 deficiency – this has been known since 1959!!(1)

  5. ElishaShemuel says:

    Honey Bee products, pollen, propollis, royal jelly, lewis labs brewers yeast rich in B and B 12. Seaweed.
    This article I linked too on my previous post has all the truth about it. The body makes it all throughout. But if we take inn chemical drugs fed to animals or in our foods we may have destroyed the ability to absorb the B 12.

    More from this B 12 article link is in my last post:

    continued: Indeed, Dr Vetrano argues that the real problem in so-called B12 deficiency is a failure of digestion and absorption of foods, rather than a deficiency of the vitamin itself. She further argues that vitamin B12 coenzymes are found in nuts and seeds as well as in many common greens, fruits, and many vegetables. If we ate 100 grams of green beans, beets, carrots, and peas we would have half of our so-called daily minimum requirement of Vitamin B12 coenzymes providing our digestion and absorption are normal. From Rodale’s The Complete Book of Vitamins, page 236 we find the following clarification: “As you know, the B complex of vitamins is called a ‘complex’ because, instead of being one vitamin, it has turned out to be a large number of related vitamins, which appear generally in the same foods.” (11)

  6. Margaret Miller says:

    Dear Victoria, My husband and I have been using the green smoothies for over a year and a half now. I am no longer considered pre-diabetic and my blood pressure has gone down to a healthy range. I had a series of ischemic strokes in 2006, no ER emergencies since. We do green smoothies every day. God Bless you for your good work. It has changed our lives. We believe that spirulina is a good source of B 12.

  7. tony says:

    dear victoria ………… i have been a vegetarian for 64 years. i have been tested for b12 with no problems. i believe that if you are a vegetarian who eats seeds you will also be eating insect eggs which are a good source of b12. often when i open my kitchen cupboard a butterfly will fly out !!

  8. shmrd says:

    I have recently read two theories: One which is that we have ingested & breathed in so much cr@p that our bodies do not make the B12 sufficiently, as they normally would; two which is that the animals that meat-eaters ingest supply B12 because those very same animals got it from “dirty” (aka, unwashed) plants. P.S. I don’t wash the produce I eat either, Victoria! No one ever told me not to; it just felt right. I’m vegan, but I’m sure I’ve accidentally eaten insects in organic produce or wild edibles. Such is life, au natural; it doesn’t bother me. :)

  9. calyson says:

    People who are health conscious can enjoy B12 benefits by using them as a food supplement and can maintain their health for long time. These supplements can be taken from the foods, pills or in the form of injections. Vitamin B12 along with other family members of B vitamins can helps to ensure the vital life of the human body. It is very good for healthy and active nervous system and is the best for the growth of DNA cells. It helps to form new red blood cells in the body. Another benefit is to maintain and retain the energy level of the body

  10. Amy says:

    Since you admit there is no proof that plants are a source of B12 and you have not conducted your own scientific research into whether your theories are true, perhaps you should refer your readers to a certified dietician or M.D. Sadly there are plenty of vegans with B12 deficiency in the scientific literature. Please don’t perpetuate this myth without some facts to back up your observations.

  11. Bryant says:

    Fabulously interesting! Thanks for posting.

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